For those of us who own equities in our retirement funds, the latest dive in stock prices is somewhat disconcerting. However, the question remains: how significant is this weakness on the rest of the economy? I am in the camp that downplays the significance of the information embedded in stock prices: although very useful in theory, in practice, stock price movements are driven by the herd psychology of investors. Even so, it raises the issue of a recession odds for 2019.
Holiday markets are extremely thin, and the desire to take risk among fund managers is probably the lowest it gets during the year. It is actually surprising that violent moves over the holidays occur as infrequently as they do. We will not get a good feeling for investor sentiment until January.
Should Policymakers Care?I started working in finance in the late 1990s, when Alan Greenspan was the Fed Chairman. Greenspan scandalised many traditional central bankers by paying attention to the stock market. In particular, I doubt that many Bundesbankers were even aware of the existence of stock markets.
In my view, the traditionalists had a point. For example, if the Fed cut rates in response to the latest turbulence in the equity markets, there is a reasonable possibility that the stock market would come roaring back, and risk-taking behaviour would end up even more deranged than it was in recent years. When that risk-taking goes bad, historians would tut-tut the central bankers, and accuse them of panicking in response to transient market turbulence.
What matters is credit. Unless there is a reason to believe that the flow of credit has been cut off, the stock market should be left to seek its own level. I would not exactly hike rates if the stock market is falling by about 1% per day, but that's about it.
What is unusual this time is the panic in the executive branch. Although the Trump campaign wants to position Donald as a hard-headed businessman, it is abundantly clear that the administration panicked like small children in response to the fall in the stock market. (The evidence is the bizarre Mnuchin letter/tweet about bank liquidity.) The proper role of the administration is to act like grownups, and offer vague platitudes ("the business of America is business!"). I doubt that level heads are going to be in surplus in the next crisis.
Should Anyone Else Care?There are two reasons that we should care about the stock market (other than our own investment position).
- The level of the stock market itself matters for the economy.
- The falling stock market is a signal that something else has gone horribly wrong in the economy.
I am firmly in the camp that #2 is perhaps correct, and unimpressed with #1.
I certainly do not have my finger on the pulse of the economy (I've been dealing with a handbook on breakeven inflation). I will be turning to a book on recessions, and so the possibility of a near-run recession is something that I will switch over to discussing at length in the New Year. Right now, I am unconvinced about recession odds, but I want to underline that is based on information that could very easily be out of date. As a result, I am agnostic on the question whether the fall in equities is telling us anything useful about the economy at large.
That said, I do not have a lot of patience for theories that the equity market itself matters much for the economy. Take a look at recent history -- we have had an equity boom since 2010, yet growth was at best tepid. The equity market is not really a source of capital; instead it is where capital largely goes to die (stock buybacks at prices well above current levels). Equities represent a large portion of household sector balance sheets, but those holdings are concentrated within an ultra-rich cohort that does not have a great propensity to consume out of equity wealth. (Otherwise, we would have had an economic boom.)
Recessions will be a major focus of my writing in 2019. Whether or not that will be of topical relevance remains to be seen. Stay tuned!
Brian I got a question about QE and QT (taper).ReplyDelete
As you know, the consensus Wall St money manager believes that the Fed's QE programs were "money printing" and brought longer term bond yields down and encouraged the risk taking behavior that beefed up the stock market, start-up manias, stock buy-backs and so-on. You know, the usual Austrian cheap money is bad and causes mis-allocation of capital story.
If I remember correctly, MMT argues QE was just an asset swap of bonds to reserves and did hardly nothing to the real economy. But could the "expectation" channel still be strong enough to not dismiss the "Austrian" story of financial asset price inflation?
Sorry forgot to add the taper question.ReplyDelete
So if you watched the Stanley Druckenmiller interview recently (the famous hedge fund guy with an Austrian econ view of things). He mentioned taper as one of the reasons he felt bearish on stocks. Basically they are seeing it as the reverse of "easy money" or easy liquidity conditions that enabled asset prices to go higher.
On a fundamental level what is QT doing? And again is it plausible just through the expectation channel that Stanley is right?
Other than the purchases of risky assets during the crisis, my view is that QE did diddly squat. Sufficiently large purchases could have obliterated the free float of duration, but my argument was that the purchases were not that big.Delete
However, when it comes to equity pricing, it comes down to what equity investors believe (“expectations channel”). If they believe in whackjob theories about “money printing,” QE could result is higher equity prices (and QT lower prices).
If you are investing in equities, you have ti accept this. However, there was no measurable spillover to the real economy, which is what I am interested in.
I am not very knowledgeable about the repo/collateral loan market but wouldn't QE also drain the amount of assets eligible for repo? But I guess this is back to the point that there was an aggregate demand problem and trying to create a favorable lending environment in order to stimulate economic growth was just pushing on a string when there was no demand for it.Delete
So at best QE is a tool to stimulate the expectations channel that just stimulates financial speculation and perhaps the FX side also? Which in that case it would have some effects on the trade balance (the real econ side).
At most, that would just slow down leverage buildup in the non-bank financial system. However, regulations and greater common sense probably contributed more to that. I really don’t know myself, but I have severe doubts that repo considerations mattered that much, and woukd not have had the effect that people claimed (higher equity prices).Delete